Children, Trying to crack the code... Options

[Nurse Fin]

Okay, I've been figuring out a bit more about the kids...


Child's Appearance
I think that you may not have to let the spouse pick to have a child that resembles them. At least, judging by other people's pictures, you don't have to because you can have sister/sister, brother/brother, sister/brother, brother/sister combos with anyone. Though, in the opening videos and such, there were children that resembled the main character with Kotomi. I'm still not really sure about that.

Older brother: Straight hair
Younger brother: Spiky hair
Older sister: Long hair
Younger sister: Short hair

Child's Personality
If the appearance thing seems complicated, then this might just be downright confusing. We still don't know all the possible personality types, or how to get them all. From info that players have gathered, your child's personality is dependent on your spouse's influence AND your own influence.

You are given 4 questions throughout your child's development in which you can influence their personality

1. After it's born
(a) Strong and Energetic
(b) Kind and Gentle

2. Crawling Stage
(a) Champion Learner
(b) Learns at Own Pace

3. Walking Stage
(a) Studies Hard
(b) Carefree

4. Talking
(a) Talks Passionately (articulately)
(b) Talks About Dreams
*You can also choose how the child addresses his/her parents at this stage

Now here's where it gets a little foggy. Depending on your spouse, there will be one "basic" type of kid that you will get if you don't enter certain combinations.

edit-- It doesn't necessarily correlate with ToT. I added spouses names next to the type which is most dominant for them.

Personality Types
Type A "Serious and Polite/Studious" (Anise, Pat, Won, Gil)
Type B "Cool and Collected/Reserved" (Goddess, Kotomi, Wizard, Chihaya, Tao)
Type C "Dreamy and Carefree" (Leena, Mai, Calvin, Juli)
Type D "Hyper and Hot-Blooded" (Witch, Cathy, Roomi, Sheila, Luke, Ose, God)

D is therefore the most common dominant type, with B in second place and C and A tied for least dominant. (however, many Type A/B/C dominant parents cannot have type D kids)

Spouse Bias and Your Influence
If you don't enter the "proper" combinations, the child's personality will take after the spouse's influence instead (their bias).
New-- there might be types that are impossible to get depending on your spouse, but it's not a sure thing.

edit: added "possible types" for each spouse in the order of dominance.
Generally most possible combinations follow a pattern:
Dominant type: Dependent on 2 questions (so the other 2 questions, doesn't matter what you choose)
Middle type: Dependent on 3 questions (one question won't matter what you choose)
Third type: You must enter one specific combination.

Each of the required combinations tend to be unique to each spouse, there are no universal patterns.

Goddess's Child
Possible Types: B, A, C
Cannot have: Hot-blooded child

Type B child: a-either-a-either
Type A child: a-a-a-either
Type C child: a-b-a-b

Witch's Child
Possible Types: D, C, A
Cannot have: Reserved child

Anise's Child
Possible Types: A, C, B
Cannot have: Hot-blooded child

Leena's Child
Possible Types: C, A, B
Cannot have: Hot-blooded child

Cathy's Child
Possible Types: D, C, A
Cannot have: Reserved child

Kotomi's Child
Possible Types: B, A, C
Cannot have: Hot-blooded child

Roomi's Child
Possible Types: D, A, C
Cannot have: Reserved child

Pat's Child
Possible Types: A, B, D
Cannot have: Dreamy child

Mai's Child
Possible Types: C, D, B
Cannot have: Studious child

Sheila's Child
Possible Types: D, C, B
Cannot have: Studious child

God's Child
Possible Types: D, B, A
Cannot have: Dreamy child

Wizard's Child
Possible Types: B, A, C
Cannot have: Hot-blooded child

Luke's Child
Possible Types: D, C, B
Cannot have: Studious child

Calvin's Child
Possible types: C, D, A
Cannot have: Reserved child

Chihaya's Child
Possible types: B, A, C
Cannot have: Hot-blooded child

Ose's Child
Possible types: D, C, A
Cannot have: Reserved child

Won's Child
Possible types: A, B, D
Cannot have: Dreamy child

Juli's Child
Possible types: C, A, B
Cannot have: Hot-blooded child

Gil's Child
Possible types: A, C, B
Cannot have: Hot-blooded child

Tao's Child
Possible types: B, A, C
Cannot have: Hot-blooded child

edit: I added more info, now that the guide is out child's personalities are more clear.

This post has been edited by Nurse Fin: Jan 8 2009, 04:37 AM

[FoodAssassin]

ok well I feel like I know so much more about the children. thanks so much Fin. I realy hope if you pick the gender they can still look like the spouse...

[Zen Clarke]

Oh geez. *is more confused* Ok, so, hair's judged by age, personality is judged by the questions you answer (I figured that anyway), but sometimes it doesn't hold true if you don't answer the questions right? What? x.x

[FoodAssassin]

ok. lol. hair is judged by age. you have that down. personality is judged by questions you have that. but you have to answer them in a particular order to get the child you want. like for the goddess if you pick A (strong and energetic), A (Champion Learner), A (studies hard), and A (talks passiontly, then your child will be serious and polite. if you pick A, B, A, B, the child will be Dreamy and Carefree. if you pick any other combination, such as A, B, B, A OR B, B, B, B then the child will take influence from the goddess (rather than you) and be cool and collected.

[Zen Clarke]

Ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh!!!!!! Now I get it. Thanks! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/lalagrin.gif)

[FoodAssassin]

Ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh!!!!!! Now I get it. Thanks! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/lalagrin.gif)

lol. no problem. its a pretty confusing concept but I think im good on it now.

[Sammy Ryou]

ok. lol. hair is judged by age. you have that down. personality is judged by questions you have that. but you have to answer them in a particular order to get the child you want. like for the goddess if you pick A (strong and energetic), A (Champion Learner), A (studies hard), and A (talks passiontly, then your child will be serious and polite. if you pick A, B, A, B, the child will be Dreamy and Carefree. if you pick any other combination, such as A, B, B, A OR B, B, B, B then the child will take influence from the goddess (rather than you) and be cool and collected.

Ahh, I see. Yes, I was scratching my head a bit at that myself, but that clarifies things. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/lalasmile.gif)

Gah, so complicated! But I guess that's a good thing, as it allows the children to be..."customizable", for lack of a better word. Gives things more variety rather than your children's looks and personality based solely on which spouse you choose. I like that.

Kinda wish there were more hair styles than just the two for each gender, though. >.<

[FoodAssassin]

Ahh, I see. Yes, I was scratching my head a bit at that myself, but that clarifies things. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/lalasmile.gif)

Gah, so complicated! But I guess that's a good thing, as it allows the children to be..."customizable", for lack of a better word. Gives things more variety rather than your children's looks and personality based solely on which spouse you choose. I like that.

Kinda wish there were more hair styles than just the two for each gender, though. >.<

ya I agree. but I still think this is the best child system so far. the only other thing we could ask for, like you said, is more hair styles and jazz

[Setsuna]

I...sort of get it. But it's too bad personality doesn't determine personality...I would've like a calm-haired son and a long-hair daughter...oh well.

[Katie]

I know this has nothing to do with hair styles or personality, but it does pertain to the children, so. :/

Do you actually choose to have a second child, or does it just happen? 'Cause honestly, I don't even know if I'd want two mouths to feed. Kidding, but I'm curious. :]

[Zen Clarke]

Yeah, I think I read that your spouse asks if you want to have another child, and you get to say yes or no. I think, though, that if you say no they get sad (and possibly lose a heart?), but after a while they'll ask again.

[FoodAssassin]

Zen is right. you have to have a level 3 house then your spouse will ask for one child and you can say yes or no (no makes them lose either half or a whole heart) and then when your house is level 4 and (I think this is right) your first child is grown theyll ask again.

[pinkat_boquet]

Oh... Do you think there's still some undiscovered combos for personalities? 'Cause I was gonna marry either the Wizard or Chihaya in my first file, but neither of 'em have Type D combos listed. :( I really wanted a hyper/hotblooded eldest daughter!

Otherwise this list is really detailed and helpful. :) You're the best!

Now we just need to figure out how hair colors work. I think some people have mentioned it having to do with who picks the gender, but I'm not 100% sure.

[FoodAssassin]

Oh... Do you think there's still some undiscovered combos for personalities? 'Cause I was gonna marry either the Wizard or Chihaya in my first file, but neither of 'em have Type D combos listed. :( I really wanted a hyper/hotblooded eldest daughter!

Otherwise this list is really detailed and helpful. :) You're the best!

Now we just need to figure out how hair colors work. I think some people have mentioned it having to do with who picks the gender, but I'm not 100% sure.

first off id like to say im sorry. im about 98% sure that those are the only combos.

and some people have mentioned that, and Cirno was going to experiment with that (But I havent heard from Cirno in a couple weeks...) but Nurse Fin (I think thats who it was) said she thinks it doesnt depend on who picks it and believes that even if you pick the gender the child can still look like the spouse

[Sammy Ryou]

first off id like to say im sorry. im about 98% sure that those are the only combos.

and some people have mentioned that, and Cirno was going to experiment with that (But I havent heard from Cirno in a couple weeks...) but Nurse Fin (I think thats who it was) said she thinks it doesnt depend on who picks it and believes that even if you pick the gender the child can still look like the spouse

I wonder, have there been any confirmed reports of children looking like the player? I don't recall seeing any pics of 'em save for that one in the trailer. All the kids in the pics at that wiki seemed to take after the spouse instead...

[FoodAssassin]

I wonder, have there been any confirmed reports of children looking like the player? I don't recall seeing any pics of 'em save for that one in the trailer. All the kids in the pics at that wiki seemed to take after the spouse instead...

well theres the one in the trailer (Candaces son.) then theres some in those we dont know about cuz they were Renee and Anissas kids (so they COULD have very well looked like the protagonist) but as for the people playing, they dont really want kids that look like them. so they find ways around it probably.

[Sammy Ryou]

well theres the one in the trailer (Candaces son.) then theres some in those we dont know about cuz they were Renee and Anissas kids (so they COULD have very well looked like the protagonist) but as for the people playing, they dont really want kids that look like them. so they find ways around it probably.

Figures. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/lalaexdee.gif)

[Chi-chan]

Mm, now I get it. Thank ya'll Fin. From what I've seen, your child with Juli takes after him right? What type is she?

Not much D types. Hmmm....

[FoodAssassin]

Mm, now I get it. Thank ya'll Fin. From what I've seen, your child with Juli takes after him right? What type is she?

Not much D types. Hmmm....

well I think they still kinda stuck with the personalities of ToT.
like, Luke and Selena were the only two who had hyper and hot-blooded kids, they're probably the only two who have hyper and hot-blooded kids as their main.

[Chi-chan]

well I think they still kinda stuck with the personalities of ToT.
like, Luke and Selena were the only two who had hyper and hot-blooded kids, they're probably the only two who have hyper and hot-blooded kids as their main.

Apparently the theory says the God's child can be type D too.

A little odd for someone like him...